I mean things don't move forward if we don't have people who are willing to, you know, you know, push things a little bit and he, he was that guy, you know, and he, he was very fascinating. And I tend to be a very empathetic kind of person, and I am very sensitive, and I care a lot about people and so I've always used that in journalism to really sort of get inside somebody else's shoes or, or their story. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Be sure to find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Exploring the troubling tales of people manipulated by claims and promises that proved too good to be true, it reveals how the perpetrator fooled their victims and made them pay the price for their misplaced trust both emotionally and financially. Cetir's family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the manufacturer of the plastic tube used in Macchiarini's procedure. A successful TV journalist, the single mother-of-one was interviewing him for a report on cutting-edge medicine. "The Experiments" told the stories of some of Maccharini's patients, including young mother Julia Tuulik, who damaged her trachea in a car accident. Track SoCal rain with LIVE Megadoppler 7000 HD, Emily Whipp, Laura Dimon, Colleen Halpin, Emma Piscia and Anthony Rivas. Are you new to podcasts? In her personal life, she's also looking for a medical miracle, a miracle that, well it wasn't going to come. From what we can tell, Benita still resides in New York alongside her daughter, where shes primarily a freelance executive producer for Lion Television, all the while serving as a public figure. He traveled to Illinois to operate on a Korean toddler who was born without a trachea and who was going to be the youngest person to ever receive an artificial one. Nothing anybody could do for her, and then like so many of Dr. Paolo Macchiarini's patients, they did a google search and found this kind of a magician of a surgeon who said I can help your little girl. But unfortunately, her personal life has been marred by a turbulent childhood in Huntington Woods, Michigan, and a series of unsuccessful relationships. Benita was pursuing a big story when the ill-fated lovers met in 2013. Then, one morning, she read in The New York Times that Macchiarini's colleagues at the Karolinska Institute had accused him of scientific misconduct and filed a complaint with the university. I had to understand what happened and why. [00:09:18] Benita: Yeah, so we, we started focusing our story around Hannah and her family, and Hannah was actually, she was going to be the youngest person in the world to ever get one of his experimental transplants; the first toddler, and also the first patient to be operated on in the United States. I was, I was conflicted about it. And I, I think at least that it makes me a better writer and a better journalist. But Macchiarini showered her in flowers and jewelry. I want him to look around that courtroom and see the families of the patients whose lives he destroyed, and see my face and at last be forced for whatever few seconds to look us all in the eye and maybe understand what he did," Alexander said. In the most recent development, she narrated her story on ABC's The Con, so that more people can be made aware of such practices. She is currently the voice of the true crime series "Still A Mystery" on Investigation Discovery, and she has narrated four seasons of this ongoing, multi part show. See production, box office & company info, Fatal Experiments: The Downfall of a Supersurgeon. The third season, called "Dr. Death: Miracle Man" includes 6 episodes, along with a bonus episode that is an interview with Benita by host Laura Beil. [00:21:08] Bob: Benita is proud of her work and happy with her husband-to-be, excited to put the finishing touches on Hannah's medical miracle story, but before the piece airs, the story takes a dark turn. Not, not that kind of just instant, immediate spark. I said, I just, I can't do this. You are no longer 21 !!! My then ex-husband, who I had moved to New York with and the father of our beautiful daughter, was dying of brain cancer. Capping off a whirlwind romance filled with gondola rides in Venice and quiet dinners in the Greek islands, she was promised a wedding in the Italian countryside officiated by the Pope himself. And I also had my beard uh, uh, cut there. Their guest list, Alexander said, included Elton John, the Beckhams, the Obamas, the Clintons and Russell Crowe. In 2015, she served as a co-executive producer on Breaking the Silence, which featured DWTS pro Cheryl Burke, and Counting On alums Jessa Seewald and Jill Duggar Dillard. "I, to this day, have no idea why he lied about our entire relationship.". Benita Alexander has been working as a Macchiarini at NBC News. Since her romance with Paolo imploded in 2015, the brunette beauty has continued working on documentaries and docuseries. Benita Alexander is an award-winning investigative television producer, showrunner, correspondent, director, writer and narrator who has worked on a wide variety of film and TV programs. [00:34:26] Matthew Christopher: You put your, I am going to make the most gorgeous dress you've ever seen. And so they got FDA approval for Paolo to do the surgery in Illinois, and they got him a special medical license to do the surgery in Illinois. Benita Alexander, an award-winning documentary TV producer and Paolo Macchiarini fall in love after meeting in 2013 while she is working on a story about the. And somehow, when I read that email, I guess all those little red flags that I had been ignoring, the things that were eating at my gut, I just knew. Thank you to our team of scambusters; Executive Producer, Julie Getz; Researcher, Haley Nelson; Associate Producer, Annalea Embree; and of course, our Audio Engineer, Julio Gonzalez. (Pasadena, Calif.) - This Valentine's Day, Investigation Discovery (ID) presents a love story gone wrong with HE LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING, the astonishing true tale of the love affair between award-winning investigative news producer Benita Alexander, and the brilliant, world-renowned surgeon Paolo Macchiarini.What started as a picture-perfect dream relationship between two people at the . He also directed ABC News to a list of reforms the Institute was implementing in the wake of the scandal. [00:23:10] Bo Lindquist: The first time was in Stockholm at the Karolinska Institute. Benita Alexander is a producer, director, writer, and narrator, who has actually been behind several episodes of ID's 'Now,' 'Dateline,' and even 'Inside the Obama White House.' It thus comes as no surprise that her professional success has given way to her confidence. The Karolinska Institute, which had renewed Macchiarini's contract in November 2015, launched another investigation into Macchiarini and reversed its previous conclusions -- Macchiarini was indeed guilty of scientific misconduct, the Institute determined. And Hillary Clinton got involved, different people in Congress got involved, but ultimately, after many trips back and forth to Brazil and a lot of emotion, he got his son home. [00:35:25] Matthew Christopher: Um, gosh, 1-2-3 for her. Macchiarini took Alexander to several romantic getaways in Europe. In 2015, she served as a co-executive producer on Breaking the Silence, which featured DWTS pro Cheryl Burke, and Counting On alums Jessa Seewald and Jill Duggar Dillard. If you want to tell somebody's story well, it, it helps if you can really tell it from their perspective. He was a flair for the dramatic and plans one romantic encounter after another. They said that the patient was doing fine and that's not true: One of his lungs was completely obliterated from a chronic infection.". Benita met and married a fellow reporter, John Noel, and moved with him to New York, where they welcomed their daughter in 2003. In fact, the scientist was embroiled in lawsuits and accusations at work. TV & Film Producer, Director, Writer, Correspondent, Narrator. The couple divorced in 2009. And so he took me on his motorcycle along the Illinois River. Alexander was working on a documentary about Macchiarini's success in the medical field. What started as dream relationship developed into a nightmare filled with lies and deceit. She was just like a little ray of sunshine, and a) I was just, it was so devastating when she didn't make it. But Bo at the time had no idea who it was. Yeah. [00:38:37] Bob: But even without asking any questions, one thing is clear, this wedding is going to be big. The Karolinska Institute commissioned an external investigation into the allegations. But everything else, I'm planning everything, and you can't ask me any questions.". However, while filming with Macchiarini, Alexander's ex-husband, the father of her young daughter, had been diagnosed with brain cancer. The true tale of the love affair between award-winning investigative producer Benita Alexander and world-renowned surgeon Paolo Macchiarini. My daughter who, you know, has been through a lot. You'll start receiving the latest news, benefits, events, and programs related to AARP's mission to empower people to choose how they live as they age. Previously, Benita Alexander had created a documentary called He Lied About Everything, where she opened up about Paulo Macchiarini and how she got love conned by him. Um, made dinner, and did all this, and then we were discussing and showing fabrications and doing sketching and then like, you know, where were we going to begin? [00:12:46] Benita: Oh yeah, no, I immediately just sort of shoved it down and thought whatever that was, it was, it was silly, and uh, let's forget about that. I'll take care of it." This is a surgeon. Please enable Javascript in your browser and try TV producer's romance with star surgeon begins against better judgment: Part 1Benita Alexander met Paolo Macchiarini while covering his pioneering work for a. ", Heartbroken, Alexander continued to discover more of Macchiarini's lies in the ensuing months. She said one question was heavy on her mind: "Why did you do this to me, why would you do that to anybody? With the preparations nearly finished, Benita decides to take maybe the toughest step she's ever taken in her 20-year career as a journalist. [00:17:35] Benita: Around this time that my ex-husband, John, passed away, we became romantically involved. She is currently the Executive Producer/Showrunner of the true crime series "Crimes Gone Viral," which airs on Investigation Discovery and is in its second season. ", Jupiter and Venus appear to 'kiss' in the sky, What is graupel? Um, maybe I felt like that at some point when I was really young and I had a, had a crush in school, I don't know, but I don't, I don't ever remember feeling like that. [00:25:28] Bo Lindquist: He was definitely prone to getting angry and, and could be quite violently. When Benita Alexander eventually realized her whole relationship with Dr. Paolo Macchiarini was nothing short of a scam, she decided she wanted the world to know the truth about him. [00:32:26] Bob: And so she comes in with a small team, right, and you all sit around a table, and what does she say to you? You know, all these celebrities were coming. In 2019, she produced the Oxygen doc Seduced By Evil, which chronicles another con-man, Derek Alldred. ABC7's Dallas Raines explains the difference, Jury selection begins for convicted torturer accused of escaping jail. [00:17:24] Bob: He was there when she needed somebody. And so that meant me quitting my job at NBC and leaving New York and pulling my daughter out of her very difficult to get into private school in New York. He has peoples lives in his hands.. Bo has begun asking questions about this medical miracle worker, so had some fellow researchers. She said Macchiarini had told her that for their wedding, the Vatican had offered them the pope's summer residence in the Italian town of Castel Gandolfo. He was kind of a rebel. She is honestly proud of how far she has come (as she should be), and its evident shell never let anything or anyone take this journey/narrative away from her. What do they discover? Yeah. After she called Macchiarini, furious about what she'd read, she began to wonder what else he might have lied about. It was, it was really, really difficult. receive communications related to AARP volunteering. With the celebrations set to last four days, Alexander had her dress designer make four different gowns. [00:24:20] Bo Lindquist: When we made our initial agreement to, to start filming, he said that his uh, personal life would be out of bounds, and I mean a bit odd that, that we couldn't even talk about where he went to school or, or something like that, but why should we? He was, he was just there when I needed somebody. I'm your host, Bob Sullivan. She was floored when he told her John Legend would sing at their wedding and Pope Francis would officiate. [00:11:55] Bob: And how old were you then? 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Click here to get breaking crime news, ongoing trial coverage and details of intriguing unsolved cases in the True Crime Newsletter. [00:08:14] Benita: But we, we started looking into him, and then he was about to do a transplant on this beautiful, beautiful little toddler, um, her name was Hannah, from Seoul, South Korea. [00:01:59] Benita: I had worked my way up from working in, from tiny little newspapers in Detroit, Michigan, which is where I went to college and where I'd, my family had moved after Australia. [00:04:33] Bob: But it also sounds like you get pretty, your stories are very emotional, and you get pretty involved in your subjects, right. They become engaged and plan a lavish dream wedding, to be attended by celebrities and officiated by none other than Pope Francis himself. It does so much unnecessary damage. "I was doing a story about regenerative medicine and his name kept coming up," Benita, a New York resident, said on the podcast Dr Death: Miracle Man. Cetir died waiting for the lung transplant she desperately needed. She found out exactly what hed lied about - and she said it was extensive. It hired Bengt Gerdin, a professor at Uppsala University in Sweden, who spent six months examining some of Macchiarini's papers for evidence of research misconduct and in May 2015 determined that he was guilty, writing in his report that Macchiarini had made false claims about his patients' conditions improving, failed to report severe complications in some patients and made it seem as if some patients had been healthier for longer than they'd actually been following their surgeries. And he said, he finally said, "Well, I'm going to go and talk to my contacts at the Vatican." And he came to visit us in Australia, and I was just, I was only 8, but I was ab--, absolutely infatuated with what he was doing and asked him all these questions. We had a long time together on the flight from Korea to Illinois. Her daughter has thus been the only constant in her life. And the stem cells were supposed to magically integrate, and he was fixing people. I loved my life at NBC. You can also manage your communication preferences by updating your account at anytime. 5. Quack, quack, quack. Since her romance with Paolo imploded in 2015, the brunette beauty has continued working on documentaries and docuseries'. While still trying to care for Cetir, Corbascio said his team found that Macchiarini had exaggerated the effectiveness of his surgeries and falsified data to make the surgeries seem more successful than they were. A contact she had to the Clintons told her they'd never heard of Macchiarini. So this is not really out of the realm of possibility that he would have contacts at the Vatican. (chuckle). And that frees up Benita to go public about their relationship. Alexander, who said she'd become close to the girl's family, was "devastated," and that Macchiarini was "depressed" about it, as they both had become attached to her. And everybody was sort of envious in a, in a sweet way, you know, everybody would say to me, "I want what you have." She hence became the executive producer of a documentary film entitled He Lied About Everything, which chronicled her emotional journey as well as his scientific lies. So first it was about the wedding gown itself. Hearings are expected to begin in 2022. By the time he performed the artificial trachea transplant on Cetir, he had already performed the same procedure on four other patients. In June 2013, they flew to Venice for what Alexander called an incredibly romantic weekend.. Paolo Macchiarini (born 22 August 1958): 2 is a Swiss-born Italian thoracic surgeon and former regenerative medicine researcher who became known for research fraud and manipulative behavior. [00:04:22] Bob: And you had a happy ending. Macchiarini proposed to Benita Alexander on Christmas Day 2013, Alexander said. That's pretty unusual too. [00:08:01] Bob: Benita knows she wants to do a special about Paolo's work, but she needs a story, a patient that viewers can follow from beginning to end. The story with making a couture gown is, you know, it goes through, gosh, a team of pattern makers, drapers, um, stitchers, sewers, hand stitchers, beading and embroiderers, lace, and all that kind of stuff. I'm, you know, I like, I like information. And it was, when I walked back to the motorcycle, he kind of, he just got off the motorcycle and I walked up to him, and I had tears streaming down my face, and he, he just grabbed me, you know. [00:25:58] Bo Lindquist: I think he liked the challenge. Benita Alexander, and swept her off her feet with a marriage proposal and promises of a wedding . ID gives the viewer the opportunity to experience this along with Benita the highs and the lows and to discover, along with her, howhe lied about everything, says Henry Schleiff, Group President of Investigation Discovery, Destination America and American Heroes Channel in a press release about the documentary. View this post on Instagram ET on ABC. And so does anyone who has anything to do with the wedding. [00:23:20] Bob: Bo also spent many months following Paolo around the world, getting to know him, getting Paolo to open up to him. The Perfect ScamSMis a project of theAARP Fraud Watch Network, which equips consumers like you with the knowledge to give you power over scams. And he, so his reputation sort of proceeds him, but when he walked in to where we were sitting that day, he, when he walked in, he looked right at me, and our eyes met, and I've never in my life had something like this happen to me before, but I, I felt like a silly, little schoolgirl. NBC News is pulling "A Leap of Faith" Meredith Vieira's documentary on controversial . And this is something very clandestine and secretive and he cant talk about, but hes been doing this for many years, and he is a celebrity surgeon to a number of famous people and celebrities, but that he cant talk about this because hes tied to people who want a private doctor who will attend to them but, you know, they have these private doctors, because they don't want anyone to know, you know, whats going on in their private life. Macchiarini remains married to Emanuela Pecchia, his wife of nearly 30 years. When her ex-husband died, Macchiarini helped Alexander cope. So he was very interesting and very fascinating and also because he was a pioneer, and he was pushing the envelope, you know, he was a little bit, a little bit radical, but doing, he was taking chances that nobody else would, and we actually need people like that in medicine. I mean my, I mean my jaw was on the floor. It defeats the point, Benita recently said. [00:35:41] Matthew Christopher: Yeah, and we definitely um, we made sure that through this process, we made sure we took care of her, you know what I mean. Gerdin also said Macchiarini had failed to obtain ethical permits to perform the transplants, which he said amounted to experimentation on human subjects. ABC News produced a tv series, The Con, that explores stories of people taken in by claims and promises that proved too good to be true, revealing how the victims were fooled and the cost of their false trust. She was 100% Daddy's Little Girl, and he utterly adored her. She'd been in the intensive care unit in Turkey for three years, and her health was still deteriorating. It could go out the window. [00:19:53] Bob: While the romance is intense, it's also very secretive. You know, we should do this to help Pope Francis, we should do this to help the Catholic church, and so it was almost like an obligation. I was just kind of like, um, 'cause Benita's so awesome and like, you know she was totally in love with him. All of this was happening around the same time that Alexander was preparing to share her own story publicly for the first time in a Vanity Fair article. [00:32:14] Matthew Christopher: She actually came to my private showroom which was really cool, and um, I had my whole staff there, and we had to sign a nondisclosure agreement, and I was like, what is going on here? Moreover, the Italian investigator found records showing that despite planning a wedding with Alexander for so long, Macchiarini was still legally married. [00:02:54] Bob: Benita focused on emotional stories, many involving children in tragic circumstances. You will be asked to register or log in. "He was a top doctor, he spoke six or seven languages. Benita is still wearing the second ring throughout the documentary! Benita was pursuing a big story when the ill-fated lovers met in 2013. 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